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Here's our complete breakdown comparing the ingredients, attributes, and more of Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 versus Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher .

Published on September 28, 2021

Overview

What they are

These products are both reef safe serums. They have a total of 25 ingredients in common

Cool Features

They both contain exfoliants, hyaluronic acid, peptides, Vitamin C and Vitamin E

Suited For

They're both likely to be good for anti aging, dry skin, brightening skin, sensitive skin, reducing pores, dark spots and better texture

Free From

They both do not contain any harsh alcohols, parabens or sulfates

What's Inside

They both contain fragrances and silicones

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Serum

Serums are highly concentrated with ingredients to provide skin with benefits. They should be used after cleansing and before moisturizing.

Serum

Serums are highly concentrated with ingredients to provide skin with benefits. They should be used after cleansing and before moisturizing.

Price

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Starts at $51.60
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Starts at $63.00

Ingredient Info

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alcohol-free
silicon-free
fragrance-free
sulfate-free
paraben-free
oil-free
fungal-acne safe
reef-safe
eu-allergen-free
vegan
cruelty-free
alcohol-free
silicon-free
fragrance-free
sulfate-free
paraben-free
oil-free
fungal-acne safe
reef-safe
eu-allergen-free
vegan
cruelty-free

At a glance

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Notable Ingredients

AHA
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Exfoliators (2)
Hyaluronic Acid
Peptides (2)

Benefits

Hydrating (4)
Redness Reducing
Reduces Irritation
Skin Texture (3)
Reduces Large Pores
Anti-Aging (2)
Dark Spots (2)
Scar Healing
Brightening (3)

Concerns

May Worsen Oily Skin (6)
Acne Trigger (2)
Irritating
Rosacea (4)
Eczema (5)

Notable Ingredients

Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Exfoliators (2)
Hyaluronic Acid
Peptides

Benefits

Hydrating (3)
Redness Reducing (3)
Reduces Irritation
Skin Texture
Reduces Large Pores
Anti-Aging (2)
Dark Spots
Acne Fighting
Brightening (3)

Concerns

May Worsen Oily Skin
Eczema
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Ingredients Compared

Ingredients that are highlighted in purple are present in both products.

WaterDimethiconeButylene GlycolCaprylic/Capric TriglycerideGlycerinBis-Peg-18 Methyl Ether Dimethyl SilanePolysorbate 20Lauryl Peg-9 Polydimethylsiloxyethyl DimethiconePolysilicone-11Mangifera Indica Seed ButterPhoenix Dactylifera Fruit ExtractPisum Sativum ExtractCucumis Sativus Fruit ExtractCrithmum Maritimum ExtractLaminaria Ochroleuca ExtractCommiphora Mukul Resin ExtractTriticum Vulgare Germ ExtractBambusa Vulgaris ExtractChlorella Vulgaris ExtractLaminaria Saccharina Extract Brassica Campestris SterolsHelianthus Annuus Seed ExtractAlgae ExtractHypnea Musciformis ExtractSigesbeckia Orientalis ExtractNymphaea Alba Flower ExtractAcetyl GlucosamineCaffeineGelidiella Acerosa ExtractCoffea Arabica Seed ExtractSodium HyaluronateLactic AcidPropylene Glycol DicaprateSaccharide IsomerateMethyl Gluceth-20EthylhexylglycerinAcrylamide/Sodium Acryloyldimethyltaurate CopolymerHelianthus Annuus SeedcakeCaprylyl GlycolIsohexadecaneTocopheryl AcetateAcrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate CrosspolymerGlyceryl PolymethacrylateSodium Polyacrylate StarchSqualaneSodium PCAUreaZea Mays Kernel ExtractWhey ProteinPalmaria Palmata ExtractPolysorbate 80Acetyl Hexapeptide-8TrioleinHydrolyzed Rice ExtractLinoleic AcidTrehaloseGlycine Soja ProteinGlucosamine HclPhospholipidsLaminaria Digitata ExtractHordeum Vulgare ExtractPolyquaternium-51Palmitoyl Hexapeptide-12ErgothioneineAminopropyl Ascorbyl PhosphatePeg-8Phytosteryl Canola GlyceridesPentylene GlycolOleic AcidPalmitic AcidXanthan GumParfumSodium HydroxideCitric AcidSilicaCalcium ChlorideStearic AcidDipropylene GlycolSodium Palmitoyl ProlineDisodium EDTABHAPotassium SorbatePhenoxyethanolMicaCI 77891CI 77491

Ingredients Side-by-side

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Ingredients Explained

These ingredients are found in both products.

Ingredients higher up in an ingredient list are typically present in a larger amount.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning, Solvent
Community Rating: Loved

Water. It's the most common cosmetic ingredient of all. You'll usually see it at the top of ingredient lists, meaning that it makes up the largest part of the product.

So why is it so popular? Water most often acts as a solvent - this means that it helps dissolve other ingredients into the formulation.

You'll also recognize water as that liquid we all need to stay alive. Talk about multi-purpose! If you see this, drink a glass of water. Stay hydrated!

Learn more about Water

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 1.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 1.

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What it does: Emollient, Skin Conditioning, Skin Protecting
Community Rating: Very Disliked

Dimethicone is a silicone used for making products smooth and silky. It also has the added benefit of sealing in hydration. The amount of dimethicone found in beauty products is considered safe and non-comedogenic, meaning it won't clog pores.

Dimethicone has been found increase absorption in skin, boosting the benefits of other ingredients. While there is concern for the safety of dimethicone, the levels used in skincare are safe for use.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 2.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 3.

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What it does: Humectant, Masking, Skin Conditioning, Solvent
Community Rating: Mixed

Butylene Glycol (or BG) is used within cosmetic products for a few different reasons:

  • It is a solvent, meaning that it helps to dissolve other ingredients. This also enhances the absorption of the product into one's skin.
  • It is a humectant, which means that it helps attract moisture into the skin.
  • It helps improve product application.

Overall, Butylene Glycol is a safe and well-rounded ingredient. It is unlikely to irritate skin, and works well with pretty much all other ingredients.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 3.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 43.

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What it does: Humectant, Skin Conditioning, Skin Protecting, Solvent
Community Rating: Loved

Glycerin is already naturally found in your skin. It helps moisturize and protect your skin.

A study from 2016 found glycerin to be more effective as a humectant than AHAs and hyaluronic acid.

As a humectant, it helps the skin stay hydrated by pulling moisture to your skin. The low molecular weight of glycerin allows it to pull moisture into the deeper layers of your skin.

Hydrated skin improves your skin barrier; Your skin barrier helps protect against irritants and bacteria.

Glycerin has also been found to have antimicrobial and antiviral properties. Due to these properties, glycerin is often used in wound and burn treatments.

In cosmetics, glycerin is usually derived from plants such as soybean or palm. However, it can also be sourced from animals, such as tallow or animal fat.

This ingredient is organic, colorless, odorless, and non-toxic.

Glycerin is the name for this ingredient in American English. British English uses Glycerol/Glycerine.

Learn more about Glycerin

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 5.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 26.

5
What it does: Emulsifying
Community Rating: Very Disliked

Polysorbate 20 is made by combining ethoxylation of sorbitan, ethylene oxide, and lauric acid. It is a mild cleansing agent, surfactant, and emulsifier.

As a surfactant, it helps collect dirt and oils for washing. Emulsifiers prevent oils and water from separating.

Polysorbate 20 also adds scent to a product. Since it is made using sorbitol, it has a sweet scent. Sorbitol can also be found in fruits such as apples and peaches.

The lauric acid used to create Polysorbate 20 is often derived from coconuts.

Polysorbate 20 may not be fungal acne safe.

Learn more about Polysorbate 20

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 7.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 33.

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What it does:
Community Rating: Disliked

We don't have a description for Polysilicone-11.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 9.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 4.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning, Skin Protecting
Community Rating: Liked

This ingredient is extracted from the germ part of the wheat plant. The germ of a plant refers to the seed embryo, or part that sprouts into a new plant.

Some studies have found wheat germ to help with wound healing.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 17.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 10.

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What it does: Skin Protecting
Community Rating: Disliked

We don't have a description for Laminaria Saccharina Extract.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 20.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 19.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Liked

Acetyl Glucosamine is an antioxidant and humectant. It is a form of Vitamin C.

Acetyl Glucosamine helps the skin produce hyaluronic acid and boost hydration.

Antioxidants help fight off free-radicals, molecules that may damage skin cells.

When paired with niacinamide, Acetyl Glucosamine has been shown to be effective at reducing discoloration.

Read more about other types of Vitamin C:

Learn more about Acetyl Glucosamine

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 27.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 5.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Loved

Caffeine is most associated with coffee, tea, and cacao. In skincare, it helps with calming inflammation and anti-aging.

Caffeine is an antioxidants, which help with the signs of aging. This is because antioxidants help fight skin-damaging free radical molecules.

While caffeine is used to treat cellulite and and dark circles, further studies are needed to prove this. It has been believed to help with these skin conditions due to its ability to dilate blood vessels and increase blood flow.

Some studies are looking into caffeine's ability to protect against UV rays.

Learn more about Caffeine

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 28.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 18.

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What it does: Humectant, Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Loved

Sodium Hyaluronate is hyaluronic acid's salt form. It is commonly derived from the sodium salt of hyaluronic acid.

Like hyaluronic acid, it is great at holding water and acts as a humectant. This makes it a great skin hydrating ingredient.

Sodium Hyaluronate is naturally occurring in our bodies and is mostly found in eye fluid and joints.

These are some other common types of Hyaluronic Acid:

Learn more about Sodium Hyaluronate

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 31.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 22.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Mixed

Ethylhexylglycerin (we can't pronounce this either) is commonly used as a preservative and skin softener. It is derived from glyceryl.

You might see Ethylhexylglycerin often paired with other preservatives such as phenoxyethanol. Ethylhexylglycerin has been found to increase the effectiveness of these other preservatives.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 36.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 27.

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We don't have a description for Acrylamide/Sodium Acryloyldimethyltaurate Copolymer.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 37.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 36.

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What it does: Emollient, Skin Conditioning, Solvent
Community Rating: Mixed

Isohexadecane is added to enhance texture, emulsify, and to help cleanse. It is an isoparrafin. It is a component of petrolatum.

Due to its large size, Isohexadecane is not absorbed by the skin. Instead, it sits on top and acts as an emollient. Emollients help keep your skin soft and smooth by trapping moisture within.

Isohexadecane is often used in products designed to help oily skin. It is lightweight and non-greasy while helping to moisturize. When mixed with silicones, it gives a product a silky feel.

Learn more about Isohexadecane

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 40.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 32.

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What it does: Antioxidant, Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Liked

Tocopheryl Acetate is AKA Vitamin E. It is an antioxidant and protects your skin from free radicals. Free radicals damage the skin by breaking down collagen.

One study found using Tocopheryl Acetate with Vitamin C decreased the number of sunburned cells.

Tocopheryl Acetate is commonly found in both skincare and dietary supplements.

Learn more about Tocopheryl Acetate

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 41.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 20.

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What it does:
Community Rating: Mixed

We don't have a description for Glyceryl Polymethacrylate.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 43.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 45.

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What it does: Emollient, Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Loved

Squalane is an emollient that helps the skin hold onto moisture. It's an oily liquid that occurs naturally in certain types of fish and plant oils.

Because squalane boosts hydration in the skin, it also comes with plenty of benefits: it is an antioxidant and can help fight free radicals and skin damage. Squalane is also found to have a detoxifying effect when applied.

Squalane comes from squalene, which occurs naturally within the sebum of our skin. It is one of the oils our skin produces to keep itself hydrated. Squalane is the hydrogenated version of squalene and has a longer shelf life.

Research shows that squalane is non-irritating (even at 100% concentration).

In general, it's a fantastic ingredient. It does a great job at hydrating the skin, and it's suitable for those with sensitive skin.

The source of squalane may impact malassezia / fungal acne. This is because olive oil derived squalane can contain impurities such as fatty acids and plant waxes. Sugarcane derived squalane is recommended for anyone with malassezia concerns.

Is squalane vegan? This depends on the source. Squalane can be derived from both plants and animals. Most squalane used in skincare comes from plants.

Please note: the source of squalane is only known if disclosed by the brand. We recommend reaching out to the brand if you have any questions about their squalane.

Read more about squalene with an "e".

Learn more about Squalane

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 45.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 28.

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What it does: Emulsifying
Community Rating: Very Disliked

Polysorbate 80 is a surfactant and emulsifier. It is used to keep ingredients together, and prevent oils and waters from separating.

It is made from polyethoxylated sorbitan and oleic acid. This ingredient can be found in cosmetics, foods, and medicine. It is water-soluble.

Polysorbate 80 may not be fungal acne safe.

Learn more about Polysorbate 80

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 51.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 38.

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What it does: Skin Conditioning
Community Rating: Loved

Phospholipids are naturally found in our skin as they are the main component of cell membranes. Phospholipids have humectant, emollient, antioxidant properties.

The phospholipids in our skin can be naturally depleted. Replenishing the phospholipids in our skin can help hydrate your skin. Due to their hygroscopic nature, they act as humectants and emollients. Humectants draw moisture from the air to your skin, while emollients help trap moisture in. This ingredient is non-occlusive.

Studies show phospholipids display antioxidant activity and may help with reducing the signs of aging.

Phospholipids are complex lipids that contain glycerin, two fatty acids, and a phosphate group. Some foods that contain phospholipids include soybeans and milk. The phospholipids found in soy come from Lecithin. This ingredient can also be synthetically created.

Some types of phospholipids:

Learn more about Phospholipids

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 59.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 41.

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What it does: Emollient, Skin Conditioning

We don't have a description for Hordeum Vulgare Extract.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 61.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 15.

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What it does: Humectant, Solvent
Community Rating: Very Disliked

PEG-8 is a synthetic polymer used as a humectant and solvent.

This ingredient is able to help dissolve active ingredients, including water. This gives it humectant properties.

It is soluble in water. The number '8' stands for the molecular weight of the ingredient.

Learn more about Peg-8

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 66.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 39.

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What it does: Preservative
Community Rating: Very Disliked

Phenoxyethanol is a preservative that has germicide, antimicrobial, and aromatic properties. Studies show that phenoxyethanol can prevent germ and microbial growth. By itself, it has a scent that is similar to that of a rose.

It's often used in formulations along with Caprylyl Glycol to preserve the shelf life of products.

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 83.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 49.

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What it does: Cosmetic Colorant
Community Rating: Very Disliked

Mica refers to a group of silicate minerals. Mica crystals are easily split to give products a shimmer. These crystals are able to reflect light to temporarily give your skin a glowy look.

Mica is found to be safe. Trace amounts of heavy metals may be found in mica, but these metals are not harmful in our personal products.

Mica has been used since prehistoric times throughout the world. Ancient Egyptian, Indian, Greek, Roman, Aztec, and Chinese civilizations have used mica.

Mica can be naturally found throughout the world. However, some sources of mica may be controversial. In 2016, mica mined in the Jharkhand state in India was found to be using child labor. However, companies are able to source ethical mica affiliated with international organizations that monitor the mica supply chain.

Learn more about Mica

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 84.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 53.

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What it does: Cosmetic Colorant
Community Rating: Disliked

Ci 77891 is a white pigment from Titanium dioxide. It is naturally found in minerals such as rutile and ilmenite.

It's main function is to add a white color to cosmetics. It can also be mixed with other colors to create different shades.

Ci 77891 is commonly found in sunscreens due to its ability to block UV rays.

Learn more about CI 77891

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 85.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 54.

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What it does: Cosmetic Colorant
Community Rating: Mixed

Ci 77491 is also hydrated iron III oxide. It's sole purpose is to give a red/pink hue to products.

Iron III oxides are classified as inorganic chemicals for coloring.

Synthetically created Ci 77491 is considered safer than those naturally found. This is because the synthetically created version may contain less impurities. Iron oxides are generally non-toxic and non-allergenic.

Learn more about CI 77491

Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 contains this as ingredient number 86.

Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher contains this as ingredient number 52.

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13% have mixed ratings
34% are disliked or very disliked
21% have no rating yet
28% are loved or liked
11% have mixed ratings
31% are disliked or very disliked
30% have no rating yet

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Estée Lauder Perfectionist Pro Rapid Firm + Lift Treatment with Acetyl Hexapeptide-8 86 ingredients

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Estée Lauder Idealist Pore Minimizing Skin Refinisher 54 ingredients

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I've been using Idealist since it first came out in 2000, and have loved it ever since. They've discontinued just this year, and I'm now desperate for any stock left, or for EL to bring it back...

I've been using Idealist since it first came out in 2000, and have loved it ever since. They've discontinued just this year, and I'm now desperate for any stock left, or for EL to bring it back...

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